What is the difference between Arsh and Kursi of Allah ?


Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “The Kursiy in relation to the Throne is like an iron ring thrown out into empty land.” 


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To begin: The best discourse is the book of Allah, and the best way is the way of Muhammad, and the worst of the matters in the religion are those newly introduced innovations, for every innovation in the religion is misguidance, and every misguidance is going astray and every going astray is in the Hellfire. 


The Kursiy is the footstool of the Most Merciful, according to the most correct of the scholarly opinions on the matter. The ‘Arsh (Throne) is

the greatest of all things that Allaah has created, over which our Lord rose in  a manner that befits His Majesty. It has pillars and is carried by

bearers who are angels of immense size. The evidence for the above is given below, along with the comments of some of the scholars. It

was narrated that Ibn Mas’ood said: Between the first heaven and the one above it is (a distance of) five hundred years. Between each

of the heavens is (a distance of) five hundred years. Between the seventh heaven and the Kursiy is (a distance of) five hundred years. Between the Kursiy

and the water is (a distance of) five hundred years, and the Throne is above the water. Allaah is above the Throne, and nothing whatsoever of

your deeds is hidden from Him. (narrated by Ibn Khuzaymah in al-Tawheed, p. 105; by al-Bayhaqi in al-Asmaa’ wa’l-Sifaat, p.

401). This report was classed as saheeh by Ibn al-Qayyim in Ijtimaa’ al-Juyoosh al-Islamiyah, p. 100; by al-Dhahabi in al-‘Uluw, p. 64).Shaykh Ibn

‘Uthaymeen said: This hadeeth stops at Ibn Mas’ood (it is mawqoof), but this is one of the matters concerning which there is no

room for opinion, so it comes under the heading of marfoo’ [ahaadeeth whose isnaad goes back to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon

him)], because Ibn Mas’ood is not known to have taken anything from the Israa’eeliyyaat [reports derived from Jewish sources]. (al-Qawl al-Mufeed

Sharh Kitaab al-Tawheed, 3/379) Imaam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab said, in the list of points noted from this hadeeth: …..(9)  The great

size of the Kursiy in relation to the heavens. (10)     The great size of the Throne in relation to the Kursiy. (11)     That the Throne is

something other than the Kursiy and the water. (Sharh Kitaab al-Tawheed, p. 667, 668). The Throne of the Most Merciful is the

greatest and most vast thing in His creation. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “So Exalted be Allaah, the True King: Laa

ilaaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Lord of the Supreme Throne! [al-Mu’minoon 23:116] “and He is

the Lord of the Mighty Throne” [al-Tawbah 9:129] “Owner of the Throne, the Glorious” [al-Burooj 85:15] Al-Qurtubi said: The

Throne is mentioned on its own because it is the greatest thing that Allaah has created; everything else is also included in

this. (Tafseer al-Qurtubi, 8/302, 303). Ibn Katheer said: “and He is the Lord of the Mighty Throne” [al-Tawbah 9:129 –

interpretation of the meaning] means, He is the Sovereign andCreator of all things, because He is the Lord of the Mighty Throne

which is the roof of creation. All created things, the heavens and the earth and all that is in them and in between them are beneath

the Throne of Allaah and are subject to His power. His knowledge encompasses all things and His power controls all things, and He

is Watcher over all things. (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 2/405) The Throne is above the Kursiy, and is above all of creation.

We believed as Allah said in his book and prophet explained as, we don’t add any comparison to it, or compare to creation.